tv Sunday Morning Futures With Maria Bartiromo FOX Business January 27, 2019 6:00pm-7:00pm EST
weekend. have a great sunday. ♪ ♪ maria: good sunday morning, everyone. thanks so much for joining us, i'm maria bartiromo. straight ahead on "sunday morning futures" right here, senator lamar alexander. we'll discuss the temporary dealen ending the government shutdown and whether congress can negotiate a long-term bill for border security. will president trump ultimately have to declare a national emergency? plus, the ranking member of the house intel community, deafen nunez, on why he -- kevin nine necessary. how democrats are plotting a course of oversight for the trump administration. also house minority whip steve scalise to discuss how congress
can come together to pass border wall funding. and i'll speak with utah democratic representative ben mcadams about his support for a border barrier that has him standing up to congressional leaders including speaker nancy pelosi. also hear mark penn reacting to the charges against roger stone. all that and more as we look ahead right now on "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ maria: and we begin this morning with president trump signing a short-term spending bill to end the partial government shutdown. this after competing measures to reopen the government both fell short in the senate. my first guest this morning is one of six gop senators who voted for the democratic plan without wall funding. joining me right now is republican senator from tennessee lamar alexander. he sits on the senate appropriations committee and serves as chairman of the health, education, labor and pensions committee. sir, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for inviting me.
maria: so why did you vote for this bill, sir? >> i wanted the government to be open. i would have voted ten times to open the government. we should never, ever close the government down as a bargaining chip in a budget negotiation whether it's border security or planned parenthood or military funding or anything else. it ought to be the chemical weapons of real warfare. it ought to be off limits. maria: fair point, sir. let's talk about the next three weeks and what it looks like. you've got another, now, deadline, february 15th. are we going to see money for the border wall? >> well, we should. here's something that's overlooked. the last four presidents, obama, clinton, bush, bush, working with congress built 654 miles of physical barrier, that's wall, along our 2,000-mile southern border. that's before president trump. maria: right. and we're looking right now at a graphic. the wall in nancy pelosi's state. this is the wall separating tijuana from san diego. >> right. yeah, for the --
maria: the wall that has been there and she voted for and knows it's in her own state, and yet she says any more wall is immoral. >> yeah. that's -- we need to get it out of the speaker's hands and the public debate and into the hands of members of congress who have for 20 years known that a comprehensive border security plan includes more personnel, more technology and more physical barrier. president trump's asking for about 234 more miles of physical barrier as part of a comprehensive plan that would not build a wall from shining sea to shining sea, as he said. it would simply do what we've been doing for 20 years. so i'm optimistic that the committee, which just last summer in the senate approved another $1.6 billion for 65 miles of physical barrier, will be able to come up with a compromise. maria: well, you are on the appropriations committee, sir. what would be the appropriate number to actually come up with the money for a border wall?
and we know that on the left many of your colleagues just want to resist this president. is that what nancy pelosi is doing, given the fact that we know in the past she has voted for border fencing, barriers like the one in her own state we just looked at? >> that's why we need to get it into the hands of members of congress who for 20 years have been saying we need more physical barrier, we need more technology, we need more custom agents, we need more border agents. we can do that just as we did for president obama, clinton, bush and bush and come up with a reasonable number for all of those things as part of a comprehensive border security. remember, even if all of the physical barrier, wall that president trump asked for were approved, we'd still have about 1,000 miles of the southern border that would not have any sort of wall on it, and he would not have asked for any sort of wall on it. so this is a very reasonable
request by the president. he's done what they asked him to do which is to cooperate in opening the government. it's now time for them to be reasonable and do again what they've done for 20 years working with other presidents. maria: so how can you do that? can you actually get it out of the speaker's hands and this fight between nancy pelosi and donald trump, get it firmly in congress' hands and have practical decisions? do you think that's possible? >> actually, that's where it is now, and that's what we suggested three weeks ago. we have a conference committee, it includes senators and house members. they're already structured. they're ready to meet. they're the ones that have in the past approved asen recently as -- as recently as last year in the senate more technology, more personnel, more physical barrier. and so it'll be their job then to recommend to the house and the senate and the president what a solution is. and they'd be smart not to recommend something the president couldn't sign, because under the constitution if you want a law, the president has to sign it. so e they'll be checking with
him, and i'm sure, checking with the leaders of the senate and house along the way, but it won't be this highly publicized where the president says wall, and nancy comes occupant of her -- out of her office and says no wall. that's not the way you get a result. maria: you said let's get it into congress' hands, that something can be done about it. to you feel you and your colleagues will have the power to do that? because we know that many of the incoming democrat freshmen congressmen if, actually, are moderate, and they want to get things done. they signed a letter, sent it to leadership saying we don't want all this bluster about investigations, we want to get things done for the american people. will they have the influence, will you have the influence in order to get this done, get it out of the fighting words and actually toward border security including fencing? >> well, we'll see. but we, you know, most of us learn after we're here a few weeks that it doesn't take much courage or skill to take a position p. you can stay home and do that. it does take some courage and
some skill to get a result, and that's what the members of this conference committee will be trying to do, to get comprehensive border security on the southern board and, where appropriate, more technology, more personnel and more physical barrier, meaning wall. maria: can you share with us the priorities, what would it cost, what is a practical number? the president's asking for $5.7 billion. the democrats will push back. what do you think is realistic in terms of the next three weeks of negotiation? >> well, i can give you a number approved by the fast -- senate last year, $1.6 billion for new physical barrier or 65 miles of wall. the president said in the middle of the year, well, we've got a problem i didn't anticipate, we need another $7 be. waste asked for $4.1 billion of a physical barrier of that. that's what the congress will consider. that's what the conference will talk about. and the republicans will support what the president asked for, the democrats will say, well,
i'm skeptical of that, but there's some other things i'd like to see. you put the two things together, and you get a result. that's what we did with presidents obama, clinton, bush and bush, that's what we should do with president trump. maria: let me ask you this, let's say in the next three weeks nancy pelosi digs in and says absolutely no more than one dollar for any wall or fence, will the government close down again? >> the government should never close down -- maria: so what are you going to do? >> well, i always vote to open the government, period. what i hope the speaker would do -- she's taken her position, the president's taken his. now step back and let the congress come up with a result and allow it to happen. we can't do it on this, we can't do it on anything. and typically we to this. i've worked on a great many issues like fixing no child left behind where president obama said there are three things i want. okay, mr. president, they'll be in there, but give me some time to work out a bill that
republicans can support with a lot of things we like that you probably don't like. so we were able to do that. that's what we do. and the speaker should step back, and the president should too actually, give us these three weeks to get a result, i think we can. maria: senator, it's good to have you on the program, thanks so much. >> thank you, maria. maria: senator lamar sam abder. -- alexander e. as president trump works on that bill, more than two dozen house democrats say the president now deserves a vote on wall funding. you can follow me on twitter @mariabartiromo. stay with us, we're looking ahead on "sunday morning futures" right now, big show ahead. ahead. ♪ to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing it's best
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a new number of house democrats appear to be supporting the idea of at least a vote on wall funding. one of them joins me right now, u.s. democratic congressman -- utah democratic congressman ben mcadams. congressman, thanks so much for being here. >> thank you, maria. good to be with you. maria: so you were among 30 house democrats who sent nancy pelosi a letter urging her to give trump a vote on the wall funding. tell me what you think would come out of that vote. >> you know, first and foremost, the purpose of that letter was to say that the shutdown is doing no good for anybody. we're harming the economy, we're risking a recession, harming the federal employees who are just working to put food on the table, and let's open the government. there are processes in the congress, in our government laid out by the founders to have debates like this. that's what congress is intended to do. so let's open the government, and then let's have this negotiation. the president has a proposal, there that should be heard in the congress, we should debate it, and then we should work to build
common ground and try to move forward a solution on border security, on immigration reform, and let's go through the proper channels of the congress that are built and intended to have this exact conversation. but let's not do it in the context of a shutdown that harms the american people, that harms our economy and risks the pocketbooks of every american. maria: right. what i'm trying to better understand is really the makeup of the new congress because, of course, we know that there's a pocket of democrats who just want the president out, and much of it is politics, and they are resisting anything that he would like. we know that nancy pelosi and many of her colleagues voted for a wall and voted for wall fencing years ago many times. we know that there's a border wall in nancy pelosi's own state of california separating tijuana and san diego. but because president trump has the idea, it's resist, resist, resist. you come from a red state. you beat out your opponent on the republic side. do you think there's a movement within your new congress to
actually get things done, putting politics aside and not necessarily resisting everything the president says because you don't like his personality? >> absolutely. you know, there are a lot of -- me and my colleagues who were elected this last year, a lot of us are pragmatists who just want to get something done. before i was elected to congress, i was a mayor. mayors just have this attitude of, okay, what can we do to move forward and solve this problem. as a democrat in a very red state i never got anything done unless i could build brings across the aisle -- bridges across the aisle. as long as we're defining a win as meaning somebody else loses, we're never going to have consensus. i don't know what that win looks like, but we have to find it. and i know a lot of my freshman colleagues are moderates to want to find that win/win, probably we should look at immigration reforms and dreamers, i think, is something important, permanent protections for dreamers. but also border security. as a mayor, i saw illegal drugs
and the impacts of that in my city, and i want to do more to stop the flow of illegal drugs into the country. so i think there's a lot of common ground, and i think the way to approach this and the way i would if i was mayor is to say, you know, there's a conversation, a debate about wall or no wall. let's step back from that conversation where it's divisive, and let's talk about what we have in common. let's find that thread of commonality amongst republicans and democrats. i think the thread of commonality is we all want to protect the border. we can find common ground on that. so in some places that's going to mean technology, in other ways immigration reform, and in some places it may mean a barrier. maria: right. >> and i think if we reframe the conversation about protecting the border or and what can we do and what's the most effective way to do, that instead of debating wall or no wall, or let's debate border security, and i think there's a lot of common ground. maria: yeah, there are areas of the country where they're wide open and perhaps maybe you don't need an actual fence or wall there because you can use
technology and drones, they're wide open areas that if illegals come in, you can actually apprehend them easily because it's so wide open. but then there are other areas like the wall we've been looking at in nancy pelosi's state separating tijuana from san diego where you have a very dense population, three million people on one side of the wall in tijuana, another three million on the other side of the wall in san diego. so what is your thoughts in terms of how much is needed for actual barrier on the southern border? and will you vote yes for wall creation and more wall extension of what we're seeing in this picture? >> so what i've tried to do is not draw any lines in the sand. i want to vote to have border protection, to have border security, to reduce the flow of drugs and even illegal immigration -- maria: but you've said part of that may include a barrier. >> sure. i wouldn't rule out barriers in places where that's appropriate. i think that's acceptable. but let's have the conversation in the context of committee
hearings with the congress with the goal of finding common ground. i also think one of the things we can do is to reduce illegal immigration by fixing a broken system. if we can make sure that good people who are just looking for a job, our economy is asking to bring in workers, let's make it easier for them to immigrate legally so they're not tempted to cross illegally. i think parking lot of the border protection -- part of the border protection strategy has to be fixing a broken immigration system, our laws. maria: do you feel that you have a voice? i know that you did not support nancy pelosi's bid to become speaker a second time. will you have the influence with these practical ideas that you're putting forth? >> i think so. we're just getting up and going as a congress right now. i've been pleasantly surprised at people both on the republican side and even more progressive on the democratic side who i felt that my voice was welcomed. let's hope that people can allow all voices to be at the table. some of the pragmatists on both
sides of the aisle, again, can really push for common ground and trying to find that, you know, that solution that will really garner a majority of support in congress and help us to reopen the border. i'm somebody who, you know, we're going to have disagreements from time to time, but once one disagreement's behind us, we move to the next issue, we try and find common ground, and we don't carry baggage forward from debate to debate, and that's how i move into this. maria: you're right. also radical on the economic side of things. you're on the financial services committee. what are your thoughts on elizabeth warren's idea to confiscate income, to put a tax on overall assets and wealth or alexandria to casio's idea of having a 70% tax rate for the top earners? >> i think -- i've jokingly said before if you, if people think there are only two political parties in this country, watch the financial services committee over the next several years. you're going to see a broad array of people across the political spectrum. you're going to see someone on
the more progressive side like representative ocasio-cortez. the myself, a moderate, a centrist who believes in the power of business and markets -- properly regulated, of course, to make sure there are protections for consumers and individuals -- that the power of markets can really do a lot of good and has done a lot of good. maria: yeah, but will that force high earners to hide income where you won't get the revenue anyway? will it change behavior in terms of philanthropy? what do you think that does to an economy if you see those kinds of tax rates, 70% tax on assets and wealth? >> yeah, i'm not -- you know, i'm not convinced a 70% tax rate is the way to go. anytime you have, you know, tax policy drives behavior, and so we, you know, that's not a direction i think we should go in as a country. maria: right. >> we should look, you know, what behavior are we trying to drive, and what is good for the american economy and good for the american people. maria: congressman, we so appreciate your time this morning. thank you, sir. >> thank you, maria. maria: ben mcadams there.
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obstruction related to his alleged contacts with wikileaks and the publishing of stolen democratic e-mails. joining me from the world ag expo is congressman devin nuñes, always a pleasure to see you. >> great to be back with you this morning. maria: i want to get your reaction to the stone indictment. in particular because the special counsel charged stone with lying to your committee in 2017, the house intel committee, about his interactions in 2016. your reaction. >> well, for two years our committee has been mocked by the left and the media as not a serious investigation, yet if you look at the indictments of the russian actors, those came from our committee, stuff that the republicans found. now you look at roger stone, he's kind of an odd political figure. he's one of these flamboyant guys who runs around and is kind of a press guy, kind of this
type of guy, says a lot of things and hangs out with some very scurrilous people. however, i think the mueller investigation is really at the bottom of the barrel when they're looking at people like this because we already found in our report that roger stone wasn't colluding with the russians, which that was the origin toal intent of all this, remember? supposedly trump campaign operatives, so-called, were colluding with russians. they must be embarrassed that they actually have to come to house republicans in order to have us give them the information, the transcripts so that they go and get roger stone on a process foul that occurred in 2017 that roger stone himself is going to fight. the process of discovery is going to be fascinating in this case, and i can't wait to watch it. maria: well, look, in testimony last summer to congressional investigators, bruce ohr from the department of justice revealed that fbi and justice lawyers were warned about a series of contacts, were warned that the dossier that they were
using to get a wiretap on carter page was paid for by the clinton campaign and the democrats. this very important piece of information has not been focused on at all. let me ask you about that, because the redacted version of the fisa application released shows the fbi did not mention a connection to the dnc or clinton. >> yeah. so this is -- the mainstream media, for the last couple of weeks, and the left have been ignoring this. so let me try to walk people through real quickly, if you allow me. so why is this significant? it's significant because for the last two years through press reports and through testimony to congress the fbi, doj, top leaders have continued to say that they did not have the steele dossier, the clinton and democratic paid-for dirt, they didn't have this until september, october.
they weren't sure when they got it. we know now when they got it. so remember, the end of july they open up an investigation -- end of july of 2016 in the middle of a campaign, they use the intelligence services in this country, and they target campaign in july. at the same time, bruce ohr -- the top career official in the department of justice -- is acting like some kind of secret agent meeting with this clinton opo guy, okay, who's digging up dirt. he's meeting, taking custody of this information, feeding it directly into the fbi and doj. so i'm happy that they're, that now doj's going to take seriously lying into congress, obstructing a congressional information. they need to -- congressional investigation. they need to start with themselves. they need to start with the former leadership of the
department of justice and fbi. if i were them, if you want to see lying to congress, i would start with strong and page, two of the investigators who were fired, who hated trump, and i would also go after the top leadership of the fbi and doj at the time. maria: but isn't it true that two of the members from the fbi who were involved in this counterintelligence investigation into trump based on unverified and salacious information from this dossier, now those two people work for robert mueller? >> oh, yes, maria, very good point that the media continues to ignore. so not only is it two of -- first of all, it was four. of two got fired. but one of them is actually the top person, the number two, the deputy -- mueller's deputy that the press and the left call the attack dog -- maria: andrew weissman. >> this is a joke, okay? yeah, this is a joke. we need to knoll what's in the scope -- know what's in the
scope memo, okay? did these guys, the two left because the other two got fired, the two that are left on the mueller council, were they involved in the chain of information? they were involved. they got the information from bruce ohr. did they disclose this to the fbi? because remember, let me make the major point, none of this was disclosed to the fisa court when they went and spy on the trump campaign using these very sophisticated tools that we have in our arsenal that are supposed the target terrorists and other bad guys they used to target a political campaign operative, okay? on the trump campaign using this -- these people were all in the chain of custody of this information. it's absolutely ludicrous. maria: so i ask you -- >> here's what's happening, maria -- maria: yeah. >> here's what's happening. if the department of justice and the fbi to not go after and prosecute these people for lying to congress, if they don't clean up their act and actually get
down to really are you going to find russian collusion or are you not with trump because you haven't found any yet, are you going to go after the clinton campaign for colluding with russians? is anyone going to do that at the department of justice, fbi? we have to have a department of justice and fbi in this country that 99.9% of americans have trust and confidence in, that they're impartial, that they're not going to be political. maria: will william barr do it, the incoming a.g.? will robert mueller investigate this within his special counsel report? >> well, mueller definitely won't do it. i mean, they're so tainted already by this, i can't imagine that they would. maria: what about bill barr? the new a. g.? where's the accountability, congressman? >> i don't know if bill barr -- i hope so. i hope bill barr will do it, but remember, our investigation is not over. we continue every day to get more and more information, the walls continue to close in. let me mention something else
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maria: welcome back. we are back with california congressman devin nuñes, ranking member on the house intelligence committee. congressman, moments ago you said next week we will see more transcripts released. you said your investigation is ongoing. will you be making criminal referrals? >> look, the goal of all this is to make sure that everyone's held accountable. so we will be taking all the information. we continue to -- i think the walls are closing in. we're getting closer and closer and closer to the people that were -- that need to be held responsible for this. now remember, we don't have a police force, okay? and the republicans, we're not even -- we don't hold the gavels anymore in the house. so all we can really do is refer people to the department of justice for prosecution. and for this to be investigated.
so i'm hopeful that that will happen with the new attorney general, but we will be -- we will continue to compile information, we will continue to conduct interviews, and we will continue to be transparent with the american people on this. maria: all right. and you said the scope memo was very important. why is that so important that you see the scope memo, which basically tells us why they launched the special counsel investigation into trump potential collusion. >> yeah. so if you remember when the special counsel was first named, there was no -- when rod rosenstein and the department of justice had the first information that was put out, i don't even think it met the regs. so that have around april, may of 2017. you have to go all the way to august that they put another memo forward and gave direction to the special counsel. we have no idea with what's in there, okay? i, i'm just speculating here, okay? but i believe it's very possible that they used uncorroborated information that came from the clinton campaign, and that could be in there as part of what they
told the special counsel to do which would be a major, major problem. look -- and i don't know if it's in there -- maria: [inaudible] >> i can't for the life of me understand -- well, why would you not be public about this? we've had this special counsel now, it goes on and on and on, it never ends. they're getting people on process fouls, they put forth information that makes it look like -- it's nice storytelling -- maria: yeah. >> -- because when you read these indictments, it reads like a secret spy novel of all these characters hanging out with russia. but the truth is they're getting them for process fouls, and they're not -- there's no evidence of collusion with russians except for the obvious people that were colluding with russians which was the clinton campaign and the democrats. maria: let me move on to another investigation that your committee has been all over, and that is on what china's been doing, this most recent case of a spy case linked to the china raising red flags for, now,
poland, one of the the u.s.' important allies. we've got a meeting coming up wednesday between u.s. and chinese officials that we could see a deal happen before march 1st deadline between u.s. and china. but the idea of espionage, i.p. theft, forced technology transfer, i spoke with dr. fang who is one of the officials in china who oversees the financial services industry. here's what he said when i asked him about a potential deal in terms of opening markets in china and oh things. listen to this -- and other things. listen to this. obviously, opening up the markets in china appears to be a priority for the chinese leadership and to the rest of the world. >> yes. maria: how much of a priority is the forced transfer of technology and i.p. theft? >> i'm not an expert in this area -- [laughter] you know, we are against forced technology transfer and i.p. theft, of course, it's not something that we would like to see. i think we can sit down and talk
about these things. maria: would that be something as far as part of a deal with the united states that you would try to make progress on those issues? >> we are waiting to talk to the united states on every issue that the u.s. raises. [laughter] and our overall objective is to have, you know, a cooperative relations in economics as well as other areas with the united states. maria: so where are we on all of this, congressman? because one fear among both polish and u.s. officials is that china might have accessed allied intelligence shared with poland and then passed it on to moscow. >> well, what i would say first is, is that congratulations to our allies, the to polish government, as you know, have been in a very difficult spot in the world right on the russian border. and for them to with an emerging economy, a growing economy, for them to take on the chinese
juggernaut, hats off to them for taking this issue seriously. so what the chinese are doing is that they have these companies that are essentially owned by the party, the communist party. and, essentially, this is a dictatorship. there's very few people that own these companies. they weaponize them. so when all over the world you have chinese technology specifically as it relates to infrastructure, communications infrastructure, they'll go in and they beat every other company around the world. and, in fact, they've driven a lot of companies out of business because they come in and undercut. how is that possible? it's not possible. but they want to have control over all the coms systems, the communications systems, all over the globe. and i think what the poles realized was that they were coming in, doing that to the polish infrastructure, and we need to make sure that all of our allies around the world are not using this chinese technology until they're willing to be totally transparent -- maria: right. >> -- and have multiple people
looking over this technology. maria: right. and that's why the cfo of huawei was detained, and you've talked to us a number of times on this program about what the chinese are doing in african countries. we will take care of your whole telecom infrastructure, no problem, free of charge. we know nothing is free because they're tapping into your phone calls and your intelligence. look, you just mentioned russia. i also had a conversation with the general secretary of nato while i was in davos last week, and here's what he said about nato and the u.s.' involvement along with our european friends. watch this. >> we are, nato is an alliance with 29 allies from both sides of the atlantic with different political parties, different history, different culture, and some are neighbors of russia, some are not. so there are differences. there are disagreements. also, for instance, on energy issues. but the strength of nato is that despite those differences, for instance, on this pipeline from russia, we have always been able to unite around our core task,
and that is that we protect and defend each other. maria: so i remember a couple of times ago when you were on this program, congressman, you called us from georgia. and we were talking there, i was talking with jens stoltenberg about this typeline that germany is relying on from russia. why wouldn't germany want to buy energy from the united states, now the number one producer, rather than being vulnerable to russia given what we know about the russians? >> well, with the current russian aggression that's taking place all over the globe and especially in eastern europe, it's amazing to me that the germans have not figured this out. you know, after two world wars, after the cold war, you'd think they would figure this out. they don't seem to care, which i think should bother everyone around the globe. germans are great allies of ours. they have a big economy. but yet we were just talking about poland. poland, romania and others realize that as long as the russians and putin are acting the way that they're acting, it is not okay for people within
nato to be striking deals that would make them reliant, totally reliant -- that's the problem here, is if you become reliant on a dictatorship like the putin regime, you really put yourself and you put all of europe in a very bad position. so, you know, where does the gas need to come from? i think it needs to come from places like central asia, azerbaijan, north africa and the united states. and, you know, where i think -- i believe that poland actually did already take in lng, purchased lng from the united states. maria: yep. >> so until russia cleans up their act, we should not be putting in new pipelines at all, because it just goes to fund this radical regime. maria: congressman, good to see you this morning. thanks so much. >> thank you. maria: devin nuñes. house minority whip steve scalise is
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it does not include funding for a border wall as the president had demanded. louisiana republican congressman steve scalise joins me now, and it is a pleasure to see you. thanks so much for joining us. >> good morning, maria, always great to be back with you. maria: do you expect to have border wall funding in the next the three weeks before the next deadline? >> i sure hope it's going to be part of a final agreement and, you know, while president trump said we're going to give you another three weeks, kind of calling the democrats' bluff who were saying we won't negotiate while the government's closed, okay, now the government's reopened. we have to have a real specific conversation about how much money they are support. the president said -- and it's not the president, it's our experts who protect the border who say it's going to cost $5.7 billion for all the technology including wall. what are the democrats willing to support. they're going to have to put a real number to paper now in these next three weeks, maria. maria: what do you think they will support? i know you've actually had support from your colleague offense the other side, some
colleagues on the other side. but is the democratic party facing its own division where part of the party is just resist, resist, resist whatever the president comes up with? >> yeah. i think we were starting to see fissures and, in fact, you saw even the house majority leader, steny hoyer, saying physical barriers should be part of the solution. you had committee chairmen on the democrat side saying give the president money for the wall. i think this growing drum beat got pelosi nervous, but at the same time, she's going to have to confront it because in every negotiation i've been in, when we've had meetings in the white house with the president, when pressed about what amount of money will she support, she always said i won't talk about numbers while the government's shut down. okay, now the government's back open, it's time to get serious about these negotiations. hopefully, there is a state of the union that happens in the next two weeks, and the president can make even a stronger case to the rest of the country because it's that growing support across the country that, ultimately, will push more democrats to our side.
maria: wait a minute, what do you mean you think there will be a state of the union? the american people want a state of the union. the supposed to be this tuesday. it feels like nancy pelosi has bested the president, obviously. she now forced him to not have the state of the union this week. i'm being told it's going to be february 5th. is the state of the union happening on february 5? >> well, nancy pelosi was holding the state of the union hostage and, ultimately, the speaker has to invite the president. the constitution requires the president to give a state of the union, doesn't mean it has to be in congress, but it ought to be in congress. and, maria, i'm hearing several things that february 5th is likely the date, but ultimately that's something that's up to the speaker of the house if it's going to be in the house chamber, which it should be. i thought it was disgraceful that she removed the state of the union from the invitation that she had already issued to the president to say that she was going to uninvite him. that had never happened before in the history of our country. i think nancy pelosi is afraid
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maria: i'm back with louisiana republican congressman steve scalise. congressman, you just said, yes, you think it is february 5th for the state of the union. why is there uncertainty about this? the american people want a state of the union. >> the american people deserve a state of the union, and it ought to be in the house chamber. the speaker of the house controls the house chamber. nancy pelosi, i thought, was very petty in uninviting the president from the original date they agreed upon. i think she ought to do it quickly, i think early next week
she ought to send a letter out formally inviting the president. february 5th is a date that seems to work well. do that quickly, end this charade and, frankly, i think it's something the american people look at in a negative way when they look at nan su pelosi trying to -- nancy pelosi trying to held the state of the union hostage. maria: congressman, thanks so much for being here. joining me now is mark penn, a harris poll chairman, he's also a former pollster and adviser to president clinton. mark, it's great to see you this morning. your most recent op-ed if in "the hill" is titled mueller's prosecution of stone venezuelan style. explain. >> well, because this prosecution is clearly what they did here was pick roger stone, go after them til they found something, and that's what you do. i mean, as i point out in the op-ed, wow, the lawyer for the dnc with john podesta said to congress they did not know where the funding came from, and here you have the lawyer who funded
it sitting right there. you have christopher steele who lied to the fbi about his press contacts. you have major events related to this, and none of those are being investigated or prosecuted. but roger stone is being prosecuted for not revealing that he was dealing with jerome corsi. who the heck cares about jerome corsi? he's banned from the internet for false stories. maria: but can robert mueller appear credible without looking at all the misdeeds we talk about every day on the left in terms of the fbi and the doj who tried to change an election in 2016? >> well, mueller is appearing less and less credible each day. you look at "the washington post"/abc poll, and very few americans really thought that his report will be credible. and i think that credibility continues to shrink in the way he operate toes. maria: all right. we leave it there. mark, it's good to see you. i know you're going to be joining me for "fox nation," so do say with us. that'll do it for "sunday
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